Can we predict the weather or the climate?

Thesis topic details

General information

Organisation

The French Alternative Energies and Atomic Energy Commission (CEA) is a key player in research, development and innovation in four main areas :
• defence and security,
• nuclear energy (fission and fusion),
• technological research for industry,
• fundamental research in the physical sciences and life sciences.

Drawing on its widely acknowledged expertise, and thanks to its 16000 technicians, engineers, researchers and staff, the CEA actively participates in collaborative projects with a large number of academic and industrial partners.

The CEA is established in ten centers spread throughout France
  

Reference

SL-DRF-25-0331  

Direction

DRF

Thesis topic details

Category

Theoretical physics

Thesis topics

Can we predict the weather or the climate?

Contract

Thèse

Job description

According to everyone's experience, predicting the weather reliably for more than a few days seems an impossible task for our best weather agencies. Yet, we all know of examples of “weather sayings” that allow wise old persons to predict tomorrow’s weather without solving the equations of motion, and sometimes better than the official forecast. On a longer scale, climate model have been able to predict the variation of mean Earth temperature due to CO2 emission over a period of 50 year rather accurately.

In the late 50’ and 60’s, Lewis Fry Richardson, then Edward Lorenz set up the basis on the resolution of this puzzle, using observations, phenomenological arguments and low order models.

Present progress in mathematics, physics of turbulence, and observational data now allow to go beyond intuition, and test the validity of the butterfly effect in the atmosphere and climate. For this, we will use new theoretical and mathematical tools and new numerical simulations based on projection of equations of motion onto an exponential grid allowing to achieve realistic/geophysical values of parameters, at a moderate computational and storage cost.

The goal of this PhD is to implement the new tools on real observations of weather maps, to try and detect the butterfly effect on real data. On a longer time scale,, the goal will be to investigate the “statistical universality” hypothesis, to understand if and how the butterfly effect leads to universal statistics that can be used for climate predictions, and whether we can hope to build new “weather sayings” using machine learning, allowing to predict climate or weather without solving the equations.

University / doctoral school

Physique en Île-de-France (EDPIF)
Paris-Saclay

Thesis topic location

Site

Saclay

Requester

Position start date

01/10/2025

Person to be contacted by the applicant

Faranda Davide davide.faranda@lsce.ipsl.fr
CEA
DRF/LSCE
Bat 714, Piece 1007, Orme des Merisiers, 91191 Gif-sur-Yvette
0169085232

Tutor / Responsible thesis director

DUBRULLE Bérengère berengere.dubrulle@cea.fr
CNRS
DRF/IRAMIS/SPEC/SPHYNX
CEA/Saclay
0169087247

En savoir plus

https://iramis.cea.fr/pisp/berengere-dubrulle-135960/
https://iramis.cea.fr/en/spec/sphynx/